La misión de este blog es resaltar las bondades y limitaciones de mi patria Honduras y como le continuamos diciendo NO a la dictadura, el totalitarismo, la obediencia sin cuestionamientos, la falta de pluralismo y corrupción de muchos de sus políticos y gobernantes actuales y pasados. Mas importante aun, quiero resaltar que busco debatir y exponer todas aquellas fuerzas que quieren acabar con la Democracia y la República de Honduras como tal....
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Strongly recommend reading La Gringa's take on the Pepe deal with Zelaya Part I and 2
I strongly recommend reading La Gringa's posts on the deal signed by our President Elect Pepe Lobo granting a free passage document for Zelaya....Lots of questions very few answers I am afraid.
Given the limited options available to him, Lobo's making the best of a bad deal.
I'd guess that Lobo and his advisors determined that Zelaya's less likely to be a poltical and public relations problem if he's stashed in the DR (or ultimately, elsewhere), as opposed to being held in Honduras, where he'd continue having access to the media and his supporters.
Are LG's questions pertaining to criminal charges against Zelaya valid? Yep, they are. But in the larger, and longer term political interests of the country, should they take precedence? I'd say no, and that's what Lobo's saying. Ultimately, improving Honduras's economic health concerns has to take priority over taking Zelaya to court.
LG correctly points out that Honduras has serious economic problems now, due in part from Zelaya's shenanigans. In even larger part now, though, those problems stem from economic sanctions imposed by countries not happy with the events of last June, and those are the problems that Lobo wants to address; he needs the recognition of Honduras's trade partners to get the country back on the road to economic health and normality, and that's why Zelaya's being released.
... And this whole thing may not be over yet. A couple of days ago, an Economist article quoted an unnamed Brazilian official as saying that Brazil wants Lobo to include Zelaya allies in his government and expressed willingness to discuss Constitutional reforms, before recognizing the Lobo government. Whether this is true or not, the point is that it's possible that Lobo will have to make further concessions in his quest to normalize Honduras's relations with most of its neighbors...
I do understand the bad situation Mr. Lobo is facing at this point. Yet, I cannot avoid the bad taste in my mouth for letting Zelaya go this easily, without even having to testify in front of the Truth Commission as a pre-requisite before obtaining an amnesty.
I have read many opinions out there indicating that the amnesty and letting go of Zelaya seems a bit hurried, preferring Zelaya to face the law. The fact that we are letting Zelaya go does contradict the principles and rationale behind his removal from office. Certainly, we have survived 7+ months, we could survive a a bit more if pressed in order to do things properly.
I don't agree with your argument that Zelaya is less of problem in Dominican Republic or whatever he may be later. Based on his previous behavior, he will intensify his campaign to promote "Socialismo XXI" and other crap, as he will be emboldened by the fact of his "victory" over the "golpista" government and the continued flow of resources from Caracas/Habana which will use him as a loudspeaker/puppet and a model/martyr to promote their agenda.At least in the Brazilian embassy there was some control over his actions. Zelaya is not rational and will likely not be in the future.
The continued foreign intervention from Brazil and Spain are unacceptable and will have to think long and hard about this, if the price we are paying for dignity and self respect is too much by lowering our heads to accept the wishes of these folks.
The message here seems to be that it does not matter if you steal millions, yet beware if you still a Chicken as the full weight of the law will go after you...
I can understand the bad taste in your mouth re: letting Zelaya go without a trial, or at least, testimony in front of the Truth Commission. Personally, I'd like to see Zelaya horse-whipped in his pajamas en la Plaza Grande, but that's just personally gratifying to me; and it would only serve to keep this pendejo in the Honduran public eye which would be good for him, but not the country.
With all due respect to you, Jose, I hope I'm right and you're wrong in terms of the Zelaya's potential to cause trouble in the DR. He's irrational, no doubt about it, but even were he to obtain Cuban/VZ resources, would he be able to cause much of a problem? I'd guess not (or hope, anyway), so we'll have to see...
On a separate note, I have to tell you that blogs still continue to claim that the Honduran military planned and led a "coup" in June, and continue to ignore the real facts of what happened. These false (I'll be kind: "mistaken") claims really irritate me because they continue to smear the image of Honduras - but hell, that's just me venting, sorry...
On your latest posting on lessons learned in Singapore, these are things of interest to me, i.e., look to the future in Honduras... I hope that you, with your contacts in country, will be able to report on what Lobo wants to do on healing the country, and how he plans to do it. take care and suerte, T
Hi T., I also hope that I am wrong in my perception that Zelaya will cause more headaches being in the DR than caved in the Brazilian embassy...after DR he will probably leave for Mexico or some other place, and then who knows may want to try again the Honduras-Nicaragua-Honduras dance again...sorry could not resist.
The image of this dude being whipped in his pijamas and his Stetson hat and cowboy boots is just a hoot...
In a serious note, I do hope that we have learned a lesson and at least we do not take willingly the snake oil from our politicians...I do not have much hope for this administration (it is up for them to surprise us...right) rather for the future generations of young people who are indeed questioning and arguing their own points of view and who will be the future of our country....that were the lessons from Singapore and other countries would be useful to transmit..in the mean time we will see what we can do...
Jose,
ReplyDeleteGiven the limited options available to him, Lobo's making the best of a bad deal.
I'd guess that Lobo and his advisors determined that Zelaya's less likely to be a poltical and public relations problem if he's stashed in the DR (or ultimately, elsewhere), as opposed to being held in Honduras, where he'd continue having access to the media and his supporters.
Are LG's questions pertaining to criminal charges against Zelaya valid? Yep, they are. But in the larger, and longer term political interests of the country, should they take precedence? I'd say no, and that's what Lobo's saying. Ultimately, improving Honduras's economic health concerns has to take priority over taking Zelaya to court.
LG correctly points out that Honduras has serious economic problems now, due in part from Zelaya's shenanigans. In even larger part now, though, those problems stem from economic sanctions imposed by countries not happy with the events of last June, and those are the problems that Lobo wants to address; he needs the recognition of Honduras's trade partners to get the country back on the road to economic health and normality, and that's why Zelaya's being released.
... And this whole thing may not be over yet. A couple of days ago, an Economist article quoted an unnamed Brazilian official as saying that Brazil wants Lobo to include Zelaya allies in his government and expressed willingness to discuss Constitutional reforms, before recognizing the Lobo government. Whether this is true or not, the point is that it's possible that Lobo will have to make further concessions in his quest to normalize Honduras's relations with most of its neighbors...
Stay tuned..
Hi T.
ReplyDeleteI do understand the bad situation Mr. Lobo is facing at this point. Yet, I cannot avoid the bad taste in my mouth for letting Zelaya go this easily, without even having to testify in front of the Truth Commission as a pre-requisite before obtaining an amnesty.
I have read many opinions out there indicating that the amnesty and letting go of Zelaya seems a bit hurried, preferring Zelaya to face the law. The fact that we are letting Zelaya go does contradict the principles and rationale behind his removal from office. Certainly, we have survived 7+ months, we could survive a a bit more if pressed in order to do things properly.
I don't agree with your argument that Zelaya is less of problem in Dominican Republic or whatever he may be later. Based on his previous behavior, he will intensify his campaign to promote "Socialismo XXI" and other crap, as he will be emboldened by the fact of his "victory" over the "golpista" government and the continued flow of resources from Caracas/Habana which will use him as a loudspeaker/puppet and a model/martyr to promote their agenda.At least in the Brazilian embassy there was some control over his actions. Zelaya is not rational and will likely not be in the future.
The continued foreign intervention from Brazil and Spain are unacceptable and will have to think long and hard about this, if the price we are paying for dignity and self respect is too much by lowering our heads to accept the wishes of these folks.
The message here seems to be that it does not matter if you steal millions, yet beware if you still a Chicken as the full weight of the law will go after you...
Jose,
ReplyDeleteI can understand the bad taste in your mouth re: letting Zelaya go without a trial, or at least, testimony in front of the Truth Commission. Personally, I'd like to see Zelaya horse-whipped in his pajamas en la Plaza Grande, but that's just personally gratifying to me; and it would only serve to keep this pendejo in the Honduran public eye which would be good for him, but not the country.
With all due respect to you, Jose, I hope I'm right and you're wrong in terms of the Zelaya's potential to cause trouble in the DR. He's irrational, no doubt about it, but even were he to obtain Cuban/VZ resources, would he be able to cause much of a problem? I'd guess not (or hope, anyway), so we'll have to see...
On a separate note, I have to tell you that blogs still continue to claim that the Honduran military planned and led a "coup" in June, and continue to ignore the real facts of what happened. These false (I'll be kind: "mistaken") claims really irritate me because they continue to smear the image of Honduras - but hell, that's just me venting, sorry...
On your latest posting on lessons learned in Singapore, these are things of interest to me, i.e., look to the future in Honduras... I hope that you, with your contacts in country, will be able to report on what Lobo wants to do on healing the country, and how he plans to do it. take care and suerte, T
Hi T.,
ReplyDeleteI also hope that I am wrong in my perception that Zelaya will cause more headaches being in the DR than caved in the Brazilian embassy...after DR he will probably leave for Mexico or some other place, and then who knows may want to try again the Honduras-Nicaragua-Honduras dance again...sorry could not resist.
The image of this dude being whipped in his pijamas and his Stetson hat and cowboy boots is just a hoot...
In a serious note, I do hope that we have learned a lesson and at least we do not take willingly the snake oil from our politicians...I do not have much hope for this administration (it is up for them to surprise us...right) rather for the future generations of young people who are indeed questioning and arguing their own points of view and who will be the future of our country....that were the lessons from Singapore and other countries would be useful to transmit..in the mean time we will see what we can do...
Cheers,
Jose